Hi Jon, Yes, you have my permission to post it. Terry Pruett-Said ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ After 15 years in ESL in various capacities it seems to me that all ESL positions have good points and bad points. ESL in community college-usually requires a Master's, some states require certification--lots of part-time positions at CC (I've also seen the number of 64%). But if you can get a full-time job seems like a good deal. ESL in IEP's at universities--nearly always requires a Master's, some jobs especially directorship's now require PhD's. Not a lot of new positions opening up at this time in US as countries realize it is cheaper to improve English skills of students in-country. But there are still some new positions just not growing at the rate they once were. More and more IEP's are diversifying into the university as a whole which may make it more likely to need a PhD in the future. Private language programs and IEP's--may hire BA's or Master's--seem to hire more part-time to control costs. Most jobs on a temporary basis. Often required to teach from a set curriculum. Adult Education ESL--doesn't necessarily require an advanced degree. But most positions part-time except for coordinators. Can pay quite poorly but seems to epend on state. Two years ago in Kansas $20 p hr. in Iowa $8.75 p hr. ESL in public schools--requires a BA/BS with ESL certification and a teacher's license. Jobs can vary greatly. Full-time positions a good deal--good pay relatively speaking and some job security. But too many ESL positions paid at aid pay or done in some other questionable way to defray costs. EFL outside of US --can vary greatly from horrid exploitation to incredibly plum positions. Thus, requirements can vary greatly to to ability to speak English to a PhD in Linguistics. Looks good on a resume and usually an invaluable experience but can be difficult to be available for jobs in the States. Some people have very difficult time readjusting to life in States also. In sum, you are unlikely to get rich teaching ESL but will quite possibly be immensely satisfied with what you do everyday. But people do leave the field because they have to pay the rent. This has been my experience and think it would be valuable to get other input. Terry Pruett-Said